Two ties to end the week

Continuing the bow-tie theme here's one by Hackett and one by Truefitt & Hill. Can you tell which is which? For no extra charge, I include a scarf. On the train home, the ensemble with the scarf, finished off with a pair of red corduroy trousers out of shot, prompted a perceptive young woman, who appeared both sober and sane, to tell me I was 'handsome'.